tv Americas Newsroom FOX News March 5, 2010 9:00am-11:00am EST
>> gretchen: log on for our after the show show. have a great weekend, everybody. we'll see you monday. there's a new report out this morning a major reversal could be in the works on where and how the 9/11 conspirators are brought to suggest, reports suggest president obama's key advisers may push for khalid shaikh mohammed, self-proclaimed 9/11 mastermind, to be tried by a military tribunal, if that happens the decision to try the terror suspects in a new york city courtroom or any civilian courtroom in this country will be given a full 180. good morning, everybody, that's where we start on a friday. i'm bill hemmer, welcome to america "america's newsroom". martha: good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. robert gibbs emphasized there's been no decision on this. the white house has become
increasingly sensitive to the political backlash over attorney general eric holder's strategy for this very important trial. bill: we're trying -- trying to figure out whether there's a reversal, is it going to happen? >> reporter: good morning, the headline is this, this is the iron law of incrementalism, step by step it is clear the white house is moving away from the decision made by attorney general eric holder to hold khalid sheikh mohammed and four conspirators in a trial in new york, mayor bloomberg doesn't want it t there, all the political figures in new york won't don't it there. it doesn't have at the present time, bill and martha, an acceptable alternative. it is working on that alternative. we've known for several weeks, bill and martha, the white house was considering alternatives, not just to a new york federal civilian court site but military tribunals as an alternate jurisdictional venue to begin with and i reported
several weeks ago among the options was having the trial of khalid sheikh mohammed and the other four coconspirators not just in guantanamo, but the area that was built for this, this has implications as far as the evidence you can use and how it's reviewed by those leading the military tribunals. all this is under review. when i say it's the iron claw of incrementalism, what i mean by that, bill and martha, it appears the white house is trying to prepare the country, the political figures in washington, for a decision about to be made but isn't quite made yet. i'm assured no decision will be made today, nothing will be announced today but it is clear something is in the works here moving away from not just new york as a venue but civilian federal jurisdiction as a venue, then you go to military tribunals and if that question arises you go to guan guantanamo. i can tell you guantanamo is in the range of options discussed and considered by this white house. bill: that would be remarkable if it goes that way. what a difference one
four-months can make. thank you, major garrett, news from the north lawn of the white house. more on this developing story throughout the morning and reaction from republican senator lindsey graham out of south carolina, he's been one of the most outspoken congressional leaders for trying terror detainees in military tribunals. he's our guest next hour. martha: february unemployment numbers are just in from the labor department. here's our latest look at the economy, forget and how things are going. nine point seven is the holding steady number now for the unemployment rate in this country. companies d. however, slash 36,000 jobs during the month of february. will these numbers get better, will they get worse, let's bring in fox business network's stuart varney, anchor of varney & company. >> okay n. the immediate future the numbers are probably going to improve, we're probably going to see some net job creation in the next few months. if you look strictly at today's numbers, we do not
see any net new job creation. three factors to consider: number one, the bad weather of the past month, apparently the labor department says it didn't have any effect on the numbers, number two, census hiring, we hired 15,000 people to work on the census in the month of february, but that was balanced out by big job losses in the postal service. factor number three, and this is probably the most important, we are still having a shrinking work force. one hundred fifty-five million people in the work force this time last year, 153 million now. we've lost 2 million people. still losing people, as we speak. that should keep the unemployment rate down. so you could always -- i look at all these factors, but the bottom line is today's report was neutral. look for a better report next month and the month thereafter. martha: 36,000 jobs lost in the month of february, stuart, and as you say, you think that we may see incremental improvement, mostly based on the census
numbers and a couple of other elements to look to be out there. it looks to me like you're saying we're not seeing sort of the motivation that would drive an actual increase in real jobs in the coming months. >> not in any numbers, not in any significant numbers, not at this point. maybe down the road some ways but as we get into the spring, yeah, you'll see some jobs created but nowhere near enough to bring the unemployment rate down significantly. martha: stuart varney, as always, we thank you for that, stu. >> thank you. bill: see where the market is going, 25 minutes on that, we'll gauge it with folks and neil cavuto has that story. we also have firsthand videotape of what it was like on board that cruise ship that was hit by these three giant waves. we told you about the story yesterday. now we have these pictures of the ordeal and they are terrifying. check it out, and the chaos that followed. about 2000 people on board,
bill: in the end, two people were dead, many others injured, 14 plus injured in the aftermath on board that ship. the owner of the ship says the monster waves were well over 30 feet high. the ship arrived in a port of spain late yesterday and coming up, we'll show you videotape of the waves crash going that ship from the outside and find out how common these -- they're called rogue waves can be. that's coming up later. arrest marioo martha: when that water pours in under your chairs, ca imagine what that was like for them? unbelievable. here is an update on a story we covered last week, we now know the name of the air traffic controller whose children gave radio instructions to the pilots at new york's jfk airport, the associated press it's glen duffy, he has worked as a controller for 20 years. sources say in the late '90s, he was a frequent critic, in fact, of the faa, while serving as union rep
for controllers at newark. the faa has sus spend duffy and his supervisor pending investigation of this incident. bill: apparently the two kids are back in school. martha: they have a story to tell! bill: okay, tell you this one! developing news at the pentagon, a fatal shooting overnight, no motive known as to why a, quote, well-dressed man walked calmly up to two pentagon police officers, pulled out a 9-millimeter handgun and opened fire. it happened at 6:40 p.m. eastern time, and police say john patrick bedell opened fire at the metro entrance to the pentagon. they say the gun fight lasted less than a minute, both officers injured, bedell died of a gunshot wound to the head. here's the pentagon chief earlier today. listen here. >> there is no indication at this point that there are any domestic or international terrorism connection toss this at all. it's probably at -- or at this time, it appears to be a single individual that had issues.
bill: sherry lee of wttg, our affiliate in washington, more from the scene there. sherry, what have you learned today? >> well, from pentagon police, we are learning that john patrick bedell they believe was acting alone. i know at some point they talked about checking out a second suspect but they are saying they believe he was acting alone, he was well-armed when he went into this checkpoint, he had two, 9-millimeter semiautomatic hand guns meand magazines. they tell us he broke from his home in california over the last several weeks and parked his car in a local garage in the d.c. area. they have located that car and tell us there was even more ammunition in that. police are telling us they don't have a motive at this point. they do admit that they are looking at some internet postings that have surfaced that are believed to have been written by the gunman that suggests he may have had some resentment towards the military and that he quid the validity of the
9/11 attacks. as for the two officers who were wounded, we're told one was hit in the side, one was hit in the shoulder, both of those are dealing with superficial wounds and the officers have been treated and released from the hospital. just to give you an idea of just how quickly this all happened, you talked about how this happened in one minute. well, there were a number of rounds that were fired. the police described it as significant. and said that there were so many rounds fired that they are still counting them, and that is one of the reasons why the metro station here at the pentagon is still closed right now. bill: sherry, thank you for that, sherri lee is on the story from the pentagon. we're working for more information throughout the morning and will be back with more developments. it was bizarre last night, don't know what his motive was but they're looking for it right now. there's a possibility, again, the suggestion in that report, there might be internet postings that they're looking at that could trace this guy's path and what he was up to. martha: shows a little maybe about what he was thinking and writing about in the past years. well, he voted no on health care reform, the
first time around, so now the question is for all those folks who voted no, can the white house change your mind now? a moderate democrat talks with us next. bill: talk about stuck in a moment, a thousand people trapped on board this boat in the frozen tundra. martha: we now know the answer, bill, to one of the great questions of all time, what was it that wiped the dinosaurs off the face of this earth. bill: that would make us the smartest people in the world.
martha: a ferry got trapped in the ice overnight off the coast of sweden, called the amarilla, one of several ships that got stuck in a pack of heavy ice on the baltic sea. look at that! it trapped over a thousand people. the icebreakers eventually helped to nudge this free and rescue helicopters were on the scene, as were
military hover craft, on standby in case the ferry needed to be evacuated. no reports of injuries thankfully and everybody is happy to be on dry land, we're told. the ferry operates in a place where this might happen, between sweden and finland. bill: take a picture. they're probably used to it, right? martha: exactly. bill: lawmakers are likely to vote this month, maybe in the coming days, several in the next few weeks to a senate bill on on health care. my next guest voted no on the bill last time around. how will he vote now? congressman jim marshall out of georgia, my guest in the studio. good morning to you. you said yourself you got some explain to go do. you voted no last time. have you changed your mind? glie haven't changed my mind. that's a a good vote, and i don't see that what's being proposed now has changed very much at all from the last bill considered, so i expect that i and many others will continue to vote no. bill: how many otherso how
many others, democrats? >> i can't tell. it was a close vote next time around. the president has a bully pulpit. i think it's a mistake but i think he'll use his bully pulpit to persuade members to vote. bill: you're not part of bart stupak's abortion group, that 11 or 12 members of the house, you're a blue dog moderate democrat and prolife. >> that's right. bill: but your issue is not necessarily abortion, it is fiscal responsibility. >> that's exactly right. bill: do i have that right? >> you're right. bill: and none of this bill has changed to satisfy you? >> the problem here is we've disconnected consumers, patients, and physicians from cost considerations too much. and the upshot for us over decades has been an explosive growth in cost. people are very concerned about cost, i'm concerned about cost. if you just do more of the same, which is largely what this does, more third party pay, that's basically what the problem is here, then you're going to get continued explosive costs.
bill: has the white house contacted you? >> no. bill: they have not. >> they have not. bill: roll this sound bite, this is from the briefing with robert gibbs and i'll ask you to comment on it. roll this here. >> far more than 50 percent of the people that live in this country know and understand that we have to change for them the cost of health care. >> they don't support this bill, though. >> well, we're working on it, sir. bill: he says we're working on that. and one would think that perhaps they're working on you. has there been any pressure? >> he's talking about the american people. bill: understood. >> and cost can the -- is the problem with access for people. if it didn't cost as much, more people would have access. the reason it costs so much is because of the current structure. if you do more of the current structure, it's just going to cost more. i think people realize that. people also realize that we're bankrupting the country over this, and if we don't get a handle on t. if we don't reform it somehow, not only do individuals continue to have problems accessing the system, but the next generation is going
to be buried in debt. bill: cut a little deeper, if this bill were signed into law, that what happens? >> that is my opinion. my opinion is it's -- it's very well-intentioned and there are cost control efforts included in the bill, but the fundamental problem here is that we don't have a normal market where health care is concerned and the upshot of that is explosive cost growth, the principal problem has to do with the third party payment system that divorces consumers and providers, physicians, from cost considerations. bill: that's something that's been erodeing in your view. >> it has. there have been a lot of people studying this. some scholars say we're sicker as a result of this, we're certainly poorer as a result of this. bill: there's an ad posted scwhrien, blanche lincoln, a moderate senator from the state of arkansas, have you seen this spot? i'm going to play it for you. i'll get to you react. we'll try and figure out where the fizzure develops between democrats on the hill and what's happening in the white house. play this.
>> i'm blanche lincoln and i want to show you what it's like in washington these days. and your tax dollars? i voted against wall street, again the auto company bailout, against the pub liks option health care plan and against the cap and trade bill. none of those were right for arkansas. my party didn't like it very much but i approve this message because i don't answer to my party. i answer to arkansas. bill: she is running for her senate life in the state of arkansas. i roll that clip, you chuckled a little bit. is that humor or certainly there's a lot more to that, especially for her people in arkansas. the ad is -- >> the ad is pretty humorous but it does accurately reflect what's going on in washington right now. unfortunately, at least in the house, we have too many seats that are safe democrat, safe republican seats, as a result the partisanship is pretty stunning. i voted the same way that she did on the three issues that the senator mentioned. bill: it reflects some of that.
final word here, today as it stands, does nancy pelosi have the votes to get health care passed? >> i don't know the answer to that. it's very close, and both the speaker and the president, well intended, will be using what resources they have to try and round up the votes. bill: there will be drama in the coming days and weeks, jim marshall, thank you. martha: a big headline, we've got brand new jobs numbers that give us a look at the economy and more than 36,000 jobs were lost in the month of february. now people are saying some of them that it's too hard to find a new job. the trouble they are facing across this country, and what they're doing about it, and you have got to see this. this is not a hollywood movie, folks, a massive wave hits a cruise ship. look at that! the water goes right up to the peoples' feet and underneath them, underneath the chairs. what's going on out there? we'll be right back.
>> liftoff of the delta rocket, completing a weather satellite constellation, growing reliability for the weather forecast. bill: love that, huh? that's the way it's supposed to happen, right? martha: exactly. bill: that's the weather satellite from nasa, unmanned, blasting off from the kennedy space center last night. nasa says the $500 million satellite will boost reliability for today's weather forecast. martha: that's good news! bill: we're going to label this the janet b. rocket! martha: we need janet to make denies of -- sense of it for us. bill: circling the earth,
with vital images. meteorologists say the satellite will make them able to track storms better and issue or -- better and issue better warnings. this for tomorrow, it's supposed to be light jacket weather? spring is almost here, martha. martha: hope you're right. a strong aftershock hitting the quake zone in chile, a 6.6 aftershock hit concepcion, causing panic for the people who have been rattled in a very big way. we are seeing new video of what it was like moments after that big 8.8 quake. take a look at this scene. this is an amateur video showing the wall of water that headed towards concepcion. later today the u.n. secretary, jn ban ci moon will sweet with chile's president.
good morning, phil. >> reporter: since the original # .8 earthquake, there have been more than 200 aftershocks registering above 4.5. my crew and i felt two last night, one this morning, and one thing all of these aftershocks has failed to do, which is really add more damage to one of chile's major export industries, that being the industry of wine making. we are here at the posada vineyard in the katagua valley, the equivalent of season oma and napa in the u.s., according to wine spectator. because of the earthquake on saturday, 130,000 of their bottles went down like that. but that's not why it's so important. why it's so important is because 80 percent of their wine was being stored in these huge stainless steel vats, each one holds 100,000 liters. they feel they lost 80 percent of what they had to sell. they do not know whether they are going to be able to
continue to be in business. they're inside the office right now going over the numbers. but across the region, the entire chilean wine industry really did suffer a major blow. that is because it not only produces a lot of cabernet sauvignon and merlot, it is the number one exporter to the united states, number one is italy, france, and united states of america. americans are drinking more and more chilean wine but right now the $1.3 billion chilean wine export industry to the united states, in serious jeopardy, hundreds of millions of dollars, definitely lost, and in fact, this particular county, and the town we're in, santa cruz, which is very charming, it's lying in northern california wine country, they had an annual wine festival scheduled to start today, canceled, because of the earthquake originally and all of these after stocks -- aftershocks and the rubble, and people
having to spend their time not dealing with normal life but with the clean up and rebuilding. martha: that's a hard hit place. thank you very much, phil keating from chile. bill: what are we hearing, three, four years at a minimum before that country gets back together again? that's tough. in a moment, disturbing new reports that the convicted sex offender accused of abducting and killing 17-year-old chelsea king could be connected to at least four other missing girl cases. now, the father of one of those girls who believes his daughter was likely taken by that same convicted offender is our guest this morning. he will make his case in a matter of moments. martha: now we know exactly what happened moments after the sea world trainer was drowned by that killer whale. the chilling 911 calls have just been made public. >> we actually have a trainer in the water with one of our whales, the whale that they're not supposed to be in the water with. >> okay. >> so we don't know what's going on. we were just told to call and have people here on
martha: all right, as we wait for wall street to get rolling here, new employment numbers have just come out and they show a loss of more than 36,000 jobs in february. we're all waiting for the month where that turns around, when we start to see this economy actually adding some jobs. no worries though in the market this morning, up 57 points now, 10501, the overall unemployment rate
held steady at 9.7%. we'll keep an eye on the action on wall street from our friends at fbn, let you know how that goes. bill: in the meantime, fox news on the job hunt, and so there -- so are plenty of americans as you know that by now, the unemployment rate changed in february but today's official number does not paint the whole picture. jamie colby is in our newsroom. what does the unemployment figure not tell us? >> that is the question, bill, and i'm glad you asked it because we met an employee who really is part of a growing majority, these discouraged workers or these marginally attached workers, those are the two phrases and categories not included in those numbers. the people who stopped looking. now, alise negren is in her 50s, worked for the same company 25 years, never thought she'd be looking for a job right now and you're seeing her with her bee loved parrot, she's trying to turn lemons into lemonade by building a business with
parrots and bird feed because she can't get a job. she sent out more than 600 resume the and hasn't even gotten an interview and she's doing what more and more workers are, she's stopped looking. here's why. >> because there's nothing out there. i applied to home depot, they wouldn't even hire me. they don't even respond. 95 percent of the employers who get your resume don't even say thank you for your resume, i'll review it. >> so she's not giving up, bill, but she's trying to turn this into something until the recession turns around, a recession that's being called the worst employment situation since the great depression. bill: jamie, if you examine and try and figure out how many jobs it takes to get us back to work, you go out, you talk to folks and they're telling you what about that? >> i went and i talked to someone who knows, an economist, at nyu's stern business school, his name is professor faughty and here's what he told me about how many jobs it really takes to get our unemployed back to
work. >> they need to produce about 100,000 jobs every month just to hold constant with the number of people entering the work force. so if you hear that we've created 100,000 jobs, we're actually just treading water. >> reporter: but not making a dent in it, bill. and that's the situation. the professor says 200, to 300,000 jobs a month must be produced in order to get the unemployed back to work, and we have to continue to do that for years to come, just to make a dent in the unemployment numbers. the concern, he says, is the longer you wait on the sidelines, you get a feeling of growing detachment, you might lose the skills that are necessary when you can reenter, and you wait longer and longer to get a job. bill: do not underestimate the unease that americans have about the economy, their own economics and what happens possibly tomorrow. jamie colby, thank you for that. hemmer at foxnews.com, we'll show you where the jobs are and where they are not, click on the job link, you'll find the easy to use job hunt and see who's hiring around the country and where.
foxnews.com. martha: now we take you to a story that has truly shocked and angered this country, a convicted sex offender pled not guilty to the rape and murder of 17-year-old chelsea king. and now the police are hoping that the arrest of john gardener may help them find 14-year-old amber dubois who you see on the righthand side of your screen. amber was seen last just 6 miles from where chelsea king's body was found. this is john gardener. he was convicted in 2000 for molesting a 13-year-old girl, he apparently went over to her, asked her if she wanted to come and watch a movie with him and the rest is history in that case. he was also sentenced to six years after that trial. the prosecutors could have sought nearly 11 years for john gardener. he ended up serving five years after molesting a 13-year-old. the most troubling part is a judge decides in 2005 that he is fit to walk the streets again. going against the opinion of
an outspoken, concerned psychiatrist at the time, who said that he believed that gardener was a, quote, dangerous criminal. he is now a person of interest in five other cases that he may be involved in since that judge let him go. amber dubois is one of those cases, she disappeared on her way to school one morning, about a year ago, and amber's father, mo dubois joins me now. thank you very much for speaking with us this morning. >> thank you for having me, martha. martha: what was it like for you? i know you looked at a lot of pictures when amber disappeared, you looked at pictures of local sex offenders and john gardener's picture was one of those. what was it like for you when you saw his face related to the chelsea king case? >> well, you know, we have such a huge list of sex offenders, when amber went missing, you know, that to me, they all started looking the same after a while, you
know. it gets to be frustrating because there's so many of them. but when we found out that gardener was arrested for the king case, we looked back and we did notice he was living approximately a mile from amber's school at the time of amber disappearance. martha: boy, that just sends chills up your spine, to realize this person was that close to your daughter. i want to show a map, because there are five other cases in which john gardener is now a person of interest, all in this area, lake elsinore, escondido. as you can see, bernardo heights middle school and rancho bernardo community park in san diego, those are the five sites in john gardener's neck of the woods where they believe he may have accosted, attacked and in chelsea king's case, killed young women. talk to me a little about what the police are telling you, mo, about your case, and whether -- what john gardener may or may not have told them about your case. >> well, according to law enforcement, john gardener is being very uncooperative,
he's not talking at all at this point. they're not giving us any details as far as any connections with him and amber's case, but you know, in the back of our heads, we have such a strong suspicion that there is, in that he was so close, that the two girls, amber and chelsea, that they were both five, five, 130 pounds, both beautiful white girls, they have so many similarities that it really puts a big fear in our minds. martha: you look at it, i can't even imagine what you feel about this, because it makes me angry, it makes a lot of people angry this man was ren -- was even allowed to be on the street. we want to show you a picture of the judge. we believe we tracked down the judge who released john guardner, peter c.detta, and this is a picture of him. what do you think about the fact that they went against a psychiatrist who basically said if you let this guy
out, he will find and attack more young girls. >> yeah. i just -- there's no reason why this monster should have been out on the street at all. you know, if he wouldn't have been released, chelsea would be here and perhaps amber would still be here as well. you know, there's no reason that a 13-year-old girl should be forced to testify after undergoing what that girl went through, and as a result of that, he got a lesser charge than what he deserved, and that should never have to happen here. martha: sadly, this is revealing a lot of flaws in the system that we've all known are there for a long time and my heart goes out to you and i hope you get answers about this and i hope if indeed john gardner was connected in your case that justice will prevail, sir. please keep us posted on what you learned about all this. >> absolutely and thank you for having me and if anyone waits any more information, log on to amber's website,
bring amber home.com. martha: bring amber home.com. mo dubois, thank you, sir. >> thank you martha, have a good day. bull bill a lot of strength in those parents. martha: i can't imagine. it has to come from just a hope that you're going to learn something or get something but any parent who watches these incredibly brave moments and dads who go through this, you just can't imagine how they do it. bill: our best to them. 20 minutes before the hour. is the white house about to full a 180 on trying gitmo detainee necessary a civilian courtroom? senator lindsey graham is making a big push on this. his ideas on what he thinks should be done. coming up. martha: it's called a rogue wave. and it killed two people on this ship. look at it, you can see it, it's right up to the window. our next guest is going to tell us why the captain should have seen this coming.
martha: we are back, police releasing the chilling 911 calls from last week's deadly whale attack at sea world. as you remember its trainer died when a killer whale pulled her into the water in front of terrified onlookers who were there at a post-show dinner event. listen to what happened over the phone. >> orange county fire rescue >> 6600 sea harbor drive. >> okay. >> sea world,. >> okay. where is the patient located inside? >> they are at shamu stadium. we actually have a trainer in the water with own of our whales, the whale that they're not supposed to be in the water with. >> okay. >> so we don't know what's going on. we were just told to call and have people here on standby when they get the person out. >> okay. do you know if -- so you don't know if the person was injured or if they're having a medical problem? >> no idea. >> okay. i don't even think they're out of the water yet,
they're still in there with the whale. >> okay, but someone is on scene and they are getting them out of the water now? >> there are people working on it, yes. there are two, three dozen people over there right now. martha: boy, two, three dozen people over there and you remember from this story that they were told, as a matter of procedure, not to go in the water if the whale was ever attacking somebody, so they had to have been standing by, watching this play out, dawn brancheau died in that attack and they trained -- she trained the whales at sea world in orlando park for 16 years. bill: we are watching complete chaos on board a cruise ship. if you missed this, here is the amateur videotape on board. take a look at this. >> bill: it looks like that
water goes right through the window when the wave strikes that ship. that was a wave that pummeled the liner killing two on board, a 26-foot wave, may be higher, we're told, broke windows in that restaurant and terrified people on board. phillip levine is a cruise ship expert and good morning to you, you deal in this type of thing, in the following respect. these giant ships have devices on them that can help stabilize them in moments like these. is there anything on board that ship that you know that could have helped that captain avoid the rocking that we saw on that tape? >> bill, it's hard to talk about the specifics of what happened out there at sea, and i can tell you one thing, the cruise industry is the safest vacation out there. that was a freak couple of waves that hit that vessel, it's highly unfortunate, it's very sad for the families, but i can tell you, bill, the cruise industry is the safest vacation possible. you can imagine, you know, 12 million people cruised last year. the city of los angeles has
12 million people. and you look at the amount of crime and issues that happen on boats, there's no comparison. it's unfortunate, it's sad, but this is highly unusual, this is clearly an accident. bill: but you described to our producers these items known as stabilizing wings, it's the first time i've heard of such a thing. what are those, phil? >> you know what happens, in the cruise industry, they want the guests to have the most enjoyable, relaxing experience, so when a ship is out at sea, they have electronic stabilizer systems to keep the vessel as stable as possible, so people can have dinner, enjoy themselves, go to the shows and enjoy this incredible value and this all-inclusive vacation. in that situation, there were terrible winds, i'm watching the film as you are and i'm not an expert on a specific area but it looks like those are very uncommon, horrible, rogue waves. bill: 60 miles an hour, and the weather in the area certainly contributed to this but you know royal carribean, princess, carnival, these are familiar names to most americans. do you know if this type of
ship has the same sort of protective measures on board that help a captain in a case like this, maneuver around a wave or ride it the right way so you don't feel it, is that even possible? >> the entire cruise industry is regulated by the ber national maritime organization, and they have the act, safety of life at sea where so many things are regulated, fire protection systems, navigation systems, the crew, everything on board, they do everything in their power and they're all very similar, the cruise industry, they're spending billions of dollars for safety, technology, and this was just, once again, unfortunate, it's sad, but it happens. bill: it is rare, touring and we're not sure about this ship -- >> very rare. very rare. bill: we're not sure about the ship's maneuvering devices but we're looking into it. phillip levine, thank you, on the rogue wave that struck in the mediterranean. something in the news that wasn't quite clear to you? that's like our case every
day. hemmer at foxnews.com, also twitter at bill hemmer, check it out, one line, that's all we need, online, we'll make sure we get to your question and hopefully get it on the air. martha: this is a big, big story today, there is growing buzz about the 9/11 terror trial this morning, is the produce about to do a 180 on this issue? senator lindsey graham, a member of the homeland security committee, and a key part of the negotiations on how these cases will be handled, joins us, right here in "america's newsroom". bill: check out the wild car chase through the gates, now the police are facing questions about how they reacted. back in three minutes.
♪ bill: we're reaching deep. love that show, that was helicopter land of the lost". martha: i was watching "the partridge family" while you were watching that. bill: scientists say they know what caused the demise of the dinosaurs. how about an asteroid 9 miles wide? that might do it. researchers say it crashed into what is now known as the gulf of mexico, creating worldwide havoc, they say it blew rock into the atmosphere, set massive wildfires, even triggered massive tsunamis and earthquakes. that would be a fox news alert if we had that! martha: something to see. bill: scientists haven't decided if it was an
asteroid impact that destroyed the dinosaurs. i saw a cartoon that had dinosaurs on top of this hill and noah's ark was floating away and the dinosaur was saying hut oh, is that today? martha: and he was smoking cigarettes, and -- there was one where they smoked cigarettes and said is that why dinosaurs became extinct. >> sunday is reserved to church, right, but it's also a day to watch hollywood's biggest awards show and this sunday is of course the academy awards. replaced our bets and if you've seen some of the oscar contenders you may have noticed there are spiritual scenes out there this year and lauren green joins us with all things spiritual. what's the scoop, has hollywood found religion? >> it's a wide rangeing face value but many of the films have a redemptive take to
it, overcoming the odds and some have religious content like the blind side, a true story about a white christian family who live out christian values by taking in this black youth and he ends up becoming a football star. then you go to the other end of the spectrum with something like "the hurt locker", this is a war mafie about combat, about soldiers, about the grit iness of all of that, and yet, someone said this is a movie about compassion, that it moves you to come occupation about these soldiers, and lest you think it's a stretch, this made christianty today's top list of films. take a listen. >> what's he doing? >> i don't know. >> what are you doing? >> sending my soul to jesus.
if i'm going to die, i'm going to die comfortable. >> the critics are saying hollywood is responding to the marketplace, these are the movies people want to see, about redemption and hope. >> i loved "the blind side" and "the hurt locker" and we'll see what happens. thank you for your perspective on the oscars for sunday night. you can catch the red carpet arrivals on fox news sungs and we have an oscar ballot, you can click on the fox on the front page, put in your pi -- picks for the major categories. there's ten best picture nominees this year. which is a bit different. i think i'm going to do very well. we'll have a little wager. bill: i like that. you won last time. bill: i did. "avatar" takes at least eight. martha: we'll talk. we'll talk in the break. bill: now it's serious. we're getting brand new details on the fatal shooting at the pentagon, what police are learning with a -- about a possible motive, the latest on that
>> we have brand new details just coming to light this morning, about the man who shot two pentagon police officers. authorities holding a news conference, today, outside of the pentagon complex, and we learned that the suspect, john patrick bedell, who they said was well dressed and unsuspicious died in the gunfire in that incident and authorities believe he acted alone and has no international ties to known terrorist groups, as for the two officers, they were released from the hospital and that is how we start a brand new hour of "america's newsroom," good to have you with us, everybody, good morning on this friday, i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning, again, the attack late yesterday, unfolding at the subway entrance of the massive defense department headquarters. 6:40 p.m., eastern time, bedell
approached the officers, and reaching into his pocket and pulling out a gun, and managed to shoot one officer, in the shoulder. and then shoot the other officer, in the thigh. both officers apparently returned fire, and, including another officer who responded with his own gun, and unleashing a hail of bullets, managing to subdue him in less than one minute's time and as martha mentioned he died hours later at georgetown washington hospitals in d.c. martha: caroline shivley is following this live at the pentagon and the big question now is why. do we have any information on a possible motive? >> reporter: the fbi has been brought into try and answer the question, as you said, bedell was shot in the head, unable to speak and died a few hours later and will not provide explanation and the fbi, they are combing through many, many post, and by someone named j. patrick bedell, the fbi is not confirm that that is the same man, but whoever made the postings, certainly,
had a big grudge against the government. and there was one audio tape, posted, i want to read part of that to you and says, this organization like many murderous governments throughout history, would see the sacrifices, thousands of its citizens in an event such as the september 11th attacks, as a small cost to per pet situa -- perpetuate its control and, information posted on the internet shows he was arrested in 2006 in california for cultivating marijuana and resisting arrest. a big order for the fbi today, in e piecing the big question together, why would you walk up to an officer, five feet away and start firing, martha? martha: and, those officers responded very well and there is nothing but praise for them, this morning, right? >> reporter: huge praise for them, today. imagine so much shooting you basically point blank take the gun out of, a semi-automatic
weapon, .9 millimeter, semi-automatic handgun and going after you and those officers responded immediately and were able to get off the fatal shot against john bedell, interestingly enough the police chief, the pentagon police, told us this morning, a lot of that is due to recent training they've gotten after the fort hood shootings. listen to the chief: >> all of you know that the active shooter issues we haved this in the country over the last several months, have brought a lot of focus on this in every police department, local, state and federal and we are no exception. and we serve a large population, and the fort hood incident put us on notice it could happen in a military reservation, and we took the appropriate actions and trained our officers, and it worked. >> reporter: now, those two officers, were treated and released last night and this morning they are recovering at home, martha. martha: thank goodness they are okay. bill: unfortunately that is what you think about, fort hood in matters like these as he pointed
out and for more on the shooting and the aftermath on our web site, foxnews.com, you can find a slide show of images from the scene, foxnews.com and we're working for more information as to motive and you will find that there, and here. martha: pirates, out there, back in action, in a big way now and we're hearing of four separate run-ins and shootouts between force and pirates off the coast of east africa, 11 suspects were arrested and the mother ship, skiff and rocket lawn cher and the boats are destroyed and the suspected pirates taken into custody. bill: now the countdown is on, a significant way, on health care reform. march 18th, circle that date on the calendar. that is the date the white house is now pushing congress to pass the massive health care reform bill. can the president, however, woo those democrats who are still on the fence? we're talking with -- talked
with a moderate democrat, last hour, live from the "america's newsroom," he voted no and will vote no again and how many democrats are out there? senior political correspondent, ka carl cameron on they're and the importance of march 18th is what, carl? >> reporter: how many times have we had the conversation in the last year, bill. bill: many. >> reporter: another deadline from the administration and another last-minute push, another last-ditch effort, to try to get it across the finish line and it has a certain degree of familiarity and it was president obama himself who said, last year, that if they didn't get it passed before the august recess of 2009, it could be a severe set back, just look at some of the preceding deadlines we have seen. 20 2009, the end of july, and that slid and a host of town hall meetings, where opposition was expressed and caused the deadline to slide to the end of september of 2009 and before the end of september it had not been
passed and the deadline slipped until the end of 2009, and now we are looking at march 18, because the president plans an overseas trip and doesn't want and will not change it we are told by white house aides, so they'd like to see momentum and he's trying to light a fire under his democratic leadership in the house and senate, and the problem is, what it has always been, bill they don't have the votes. bill: nancy pelosi is apparently losing the conservative democrats over the abortion issue, maybe ten, maybe 11, maybe 12. but, at this point, bart stupak and his gang, are holding still. rather, holding steady, rather against it and yet, she continues to say that this is not just the only issue out there. and the only issue that could obstruct this. >> reporter: right, but, they passed it in the house but she's lost enough votes the democrats are in a much, much worse position than they were when the hos paused the legislation and it is getting increasingly negative and the abortion issue is only one and bart stupak and
a host of anti-abortion conservative democrats said they will not vote for the legislation, because they need to have the abortion issue clarified and the house and senate have two very different positions, today, and nancy pelosi's top deputy, steny hoyer, the majority leader of maryland, has put out the suggestion that maybe they could come up with a separate piece of legislation, to break the abortion issue out of health care. and, pass that. well, unless it is passed before health care, which would slow things down, dramatically, most anti-abortion democrats will not accept a program of a fix after voting for health care and, it has absolutely no guarantee, that the senate would agree with whatever became -- the house came up with, so, it is a promise that may be very very, hard to deliver, and, at least, the president hopes to make -- the latest deadline. bill: that is just one issue out there and the moderate blue dog democrats, for many of them it's not abortion but whether or not the fiscally sound legs -- something they are keenly aware of now.
all right, carl, thanks for that, we'll watch it, carl cameron, busy day for you, my friend. march 18th, circled on the calendar. martha: congress is not just focussing on health care, the other major priority on capitol hill is we need jobs, to get moving, in the country and the labor department, this morning, reporting that employers cut another 36,000 jobs, from the payrolls over the course of the month of february, and analysts expected bigger losses than that, though, and that is why you are seeing not a huge reaction in the markets, positive jobs report keeping the unemployment rate steady, at 9.7%. so, what to make of this, james rosen is live in our d.c. bureau and the jobless rate has not risen since october and are we seeing light at the end of the tunnel here? >> well, the latest numbers from the labor department, martha, would seem to send mixed messages, different sectors, fare differently over the last month and let's dive into the numbers. the construction industry, lost 64,000 jobs last month, compared with an average of 40,000 over the three preceding months and yet the leisure and hospitality
industry, which includes hotels and resorts, posted a net positive gain, of 7,000 jobs, and, let's step back and look more broadly here and the ranks of the long term unemployed, means, people who have been out of work six months or more dropped by 200,000, from 6.3 million people to 6.1 million people and would appear to be good news, until you realize the under employment rate and that refers to people who have given up looking for work, as opposed to those who are working part-time rose 3/10 of a percentage point and the bottom of the screen, and the the average work week shrank and more people are giving up looking for work and more people are having trouble expanding to full-time work and more people are having their work week trimmed and if the work week crept up instead of down when the overall jobless rate held flat it might have portended,
they are inching toward hiring again but that is not what we are seeing. martha: fewer people have money in their pockets to spend, have a little bit less than they hope to have if their hours are cut back, james rosen, thanks for that snapshot of what is going on from washington. appreciate it. bill: a huge challenge, we have to figure it out. neil cavuto has ideas, he's up here live in 20 minutes on that. new reports on where and how the 9/11 conspirators will meet their fate. republican senator lindsey graham is on the homeland security committee, has strong opinions on this. he's on deck, with his view. only three minutes away. martha: and there is this: a car chase with a crash ending. check this out. bill: wow. martha: and a full on-foot pursuit came after that and the people who watch it go down, a story that these folks -- i'm not kidding we have seen a lot of these and you have not seen one like this, i promise, next. >> i'm going to catch him...
[ woman ] nine iron, it's almost tee-time. time to face the pollen that used to make me sneeze, my eyes water. but with new zyrtec® liquid gels, i get allergy relief at liquid speed. that's the fast, powerful relief of zyrtec®, now in a liquid gel. zyrtec® is the fastest 24-hour allergy medicine. it works on my worst symptoms so i'm ready by the time we get to the first hole. and that's good because the competition's steep today. new zyrtec® liquid gels work fast, so i can love the air.™ to control my diabetes, to and that's good because the competition's steep today. stay healthy - and get on with my life. it comes from liberty medical. and now, it's not only where i get my diabetes testing supplies - but it's where i get my
prescription drugs as well. see if you're on medicare, the cost of your diabetes testing supplies as well as your prescription drugs may be covered. liberty takes care of all the paperwork with medicare and sends the prescription forms directly to your doctor for approval. then, on your schedule, packs up this box and sends it right to your door with no charge for shipping. and liberty assures you have everything you need to manage your diabetes, including most brand name meters. call now and we'll send you a free meter. plus, a free cookbook when you join. call liberty. they can help you live a better life. call the number on your screen.
martha: the announcement that sparked the controversy over how and where the 9/11 conspirators should meet their fate, listen to how it all started: >> our federal civilian criminal justice system has the ability to incapacitate terrorists, has the ability to gain in terms from those terrorists, and is a valuable tool in our fight against terrorism. doesn't mean it is the only tool that we should use. we have to couple it with what we do on the military side, and what we do on the intelligence-gathering side, but to take this tool, out of our hands, to denigrate the use of this tool, flies in the face of the facts, flies in the face of the history of the use of this tool, and is more about politics than it is about facts. martha: and now we are hearing reports that there could be a major reversal now, in the works, for the self-proclaimed 9/11 mastermind, khalid sheikh
mohammed and the four other suspects and they could be now tried enin a military tribunal, rather than a new york court and that is what all of the controversy has been about and lindsey graham, homeland security committee, of course, has len fighting hard for the change and welcome, senator, it is good to see you this morning. >> thank you, martha. martha: this is something you have been speaking out about strongly and there is a report in the "washington post" that says this is going to happen, they will now be tried in a military court and this white house today is tempering that a little bit and the white house is saying that no announcement is yet to be made. what is your understanding of where this stands? >> well, i really don't know, but i think it would be welcome news by most americans that khalid sheikh mohammed would not be tried in new york city, miles away from the attack side of 9/11 and given the same constitutional rights as an american citizen and would be a
zoo and would take hundreds of millions of dollars and would be taken to war in the wrong direction and i agree with the attorney general there is a role for civilian courts in this war but, simply stated, if the mastermind of 9/11, khalid sheikh mohammed, who has taken credit for planning 9/11, is not an enemy combatant, at war with the united states, worthy of a military commission trial, who would be? so, if this report is correct, i think, it helps us immensely get detainee policy back on track to find bipartisan solutions to this very difficult problem, we face. martha: i want to show you a bit of the "washington post" story that came out this morning which i know you know is out there. and, this quote really caught my attention. it says, if obama accepts the likely recommendation of his advisors, the white house may be able to secure from congress the funding and legal authority that it needs to close the u.s. military prison at guantanamo bay, cuba, and replace it with a
facility here in the u.s., and the suggestion here, senator graham, is that there is some kind of deal, between congress and the white house. that if the white house agrees to hold all of these people, khalid sheikh mohammed, in a military tribunal, for their trials, that then, congress will give them the go-ahead and say, okay, fine, close guantanamo bay, does that kind of deal exist. >> not that i'm aware of and let me tell you what i have been trying to do from the bush administration to now. is to create a legal system that recognizes we're at war. that understands that there is due process rights available to detainees at war, but, they are not common criminals. i have advocated the closing of guantanamo bay if you could do it safely, so, has president bush, senator john mccain when he was running and military commanders saying guantanamo bay if safely closed would help the overall war effort. to me, what i'm trying to do, is to create a legal system that
allows enemy combatants to be tried by military commission which was reached in 2009 with the help of the obama skaegs administration, find a way to close guantanamo bay safely and, keep them off the battlefield if they are enemy combatants and try them in military civilian court and this is important, martha, 48 people -- 48 people according to the obama administration at guantanamo bay are too dangerous to let go, and will not be tried, either in civilian or military courts. the only law that allows you to hold someone without trials is military law, and, under military law, martha, you don't have to let an enemy prisoner go if you have a due process system that allows them to say they are not an enemy prisoner. martha: have you had any communication with the white house over this very specific issue? that if they go to a military tribunal, for khalid sheikh mohammed and company, that you would, you know, help congress to -- you know, you would be a voice in congress, to close
guantanamo bay? >> you would not be able to close guantanamo bay by simply putting khalid sheikh mohammed back into military court. you would have to have a legal system that deals with the 48, that allows the 48 people the administration said are too dangerous to let go, to have a statute that would deal with that situation, to give them due process, but recognize that, under military law, they could be held without trial. what happens to the 31 detainees, who have been granted their habeas petition by judges, do we let them out on the streets of the united states? my argument has been that the congress and administration should work together to create a legal system to deal with all of the problems related to the war on terror, just not khalid sheikh mohammed. martha: i hear you. before i let you go, do you think that in short order over the next few days we will see a reversal from the white house on this issue, and khalid sheikh mohammed and company, will be tried, in a military court?
>> i don't know, but if it were done, the way you described, i think it would be good leadership on the part of the president and give us a chance to close guantanamo bay, safely. and would be welcomed by the american people, to the left, who believe it was used -- we should use the law enforcement model undermines intelligence and is dangerous and to people on the right who espouse torture and, that hurts the war effort and there is a better way and khalid sheikh mohammed being brought back into the military trials is a good start, to find a way forward. martha: this is something you have been fighting for very are dentsly and we hope to talk about -- ardently and we hope to talk about, if we indeed get the word out of the white house in the coming days, senator graham, thanks so much for being with us today. >> thank you. martha: in a moment... bill: this is no scene from the love boat, a thousand people frozen on ice, stuck at sea. how will they get free? we're about to find out.
martha: and this heroic rescue caught on tape, one of the rescuers is with us, minutes from now, how he saved this man's life. walmart's $10 90-day generic prescriptions... don: ...no matter where you live. don: plus get free shipping on over 3,000 other prescriptions. don: call 1-800-2-refill for your free home delivery. save money. live better. walmart. one pack. 6 days. that's elations. new elations. clinically proven to improve joint comfort... in as little as six days. drinking it every day keeps it working. elations has clinically proven levels... of glucosamine and chondroitin,
martha: we've seen our share of car chases and now this wild one! out of detroit, it started as a routine traffic stop and quickly turned in to a hot pursuit situation, our affiliate, wjbk has this: >> reporter: it was like an episode of cops! maybe crazer! but the -- crazier, but the bad boy knew what he was going to do when the cops came calling for him, run -- andre hardy of detroit was on the run when sky fox spotted him, and they tried
to pull him over but the bronco wouldn't budge. >> i thought, oh, my god. >> reporter: watching it go down was drama, the loser was relentless and goes on an amazing race, running from the long arm of the law, during rush hour! a high-speed police pursuit putting dozens of metro detroiters in danger. look at him, bobbing, weaving, jumping on and off the freeway and smacked into several cars before crashing, into this pickup truck at lin wood near the lodge. >> i think the man, right there, i heard the little girl crying and i seen the lady holding her neck. >> when it crashed he drove head on and he jumped out of the car and took off, right there and started running. >> reporter: he ditched his coat and police believe he may have been trying to dump drugs and possibly a pistol. >> he was trying to find somewhere to hide. >> reporter: but cops were close behind. >> and, another officer was running around this way and he was like, i'll catch him, i'll
whip your [bleeped] and you know what i'm saying. >> reporter: i know what he's saying, the bad guy... >> puts his hands up like it is over with. and he caught out with the right, and then, he saw... i think he, i think he was nice. because, i would have messed him up completely. >> reporter: one thing is for sure, detroit police chief warren evans has zero-tolerance for abusive behavior and likes top cops and the chase was caught on camera and now the chief of the chasers is checking to see if the boys in blue did things by the book. >> good police work is good police work, but if there is excessive force we will not tolerate it and internal affairs has been called. >> he surrendered and probably deserved the whipping he got, but, probably could have been hand a little different. >> reporter: i think the officers, by and large did the right thing and if there was excessive force we'll determine it later but i am not prepared to say that at this point. martha: that was fascinating! andrea, reporter in detroit,
excellent job there. thank you very much, and, she said, that loser was relentless! bill: keep your guy on the loser with the eskimo hat, keep your eye on him! and developing story from northern europe now, four ships including two passenger ferries stuck in thick ice in the baltic sea, amy kellogg is watching that and are they stuck or free, amy. >> reporter: they are unstuck, at this point, bill and they were stuck in this space between an archipelago and finland, sweden and finland and those waters ice over in the baltic sea in the winter and it is unusual for passenger ships to get stuck there and normally cargo ships run into trouble and the ferries that go between finland and sweden and they are for duty-free shopping, quite frankly, party boats and a lot of swedes buy alcohol on board the ships and were warned by the coast guard, the small icebreakers in that body of water, not to make the trip but
went ahead with it because they are really big ships and they thought they'd be obz and what happened, is there was a big change in conditions, suddenly with winds that just passed those chunks of ice against land, making it extremely treacherous and everyone is fine and everyone is off, and there are smaller ships, however, farther north, 20 to 30, that are waiting for more icebreakers to get them into port but they are not stuck. bill: think twice before you go out next time, amy kellogg, thanks, good news for those passengers on board. martha: duty-free shopping, offer upper fume and a carton of cigarettes, a tough trip! all right, we have new jobs numbers out today, as you may have seen, we'll find out more about what they mean, 36,000 jobs, were lost in the month of february. and this as the house just passed a $15 billion jobs bill, will it be enough, to get the economy moving again? that is what everybody wants, and neil cavuto is going to give us his unique in sight on that. bill: and you see the tape and watch it closely, that man, his life has been saved and the hero
who saved him, joins us live. in only three minutes, here on "america's newsroom." [ female announcer ] for dazzling white teeth, give toothpaste the brush off. you need listerine® whitening® vibrant white™ rins. the mouthwash that gets teeth four times whiter than the leading toothpaste. and kills bad breath germs. listerine® whitening vibrant white™. identity theft, one of the fastest growing crimes in america. even if you think you're doing everything right, and hiding that social security number, you must still give it to your employer, your doctor, your accountant, insurance, school. the list goes on and on. and the identity thieves know who you must give it to. that's who they target. if they can get your personal information... they can turn it into money.
basically you're on your own. you really don't know where to turn. the bank can only, you know, make sure the credits go through. fifty-eight different individuals are using... my old social security number. but there is one place you can turn... for real protection and real peace of mind. lifelock. a member called in and i could tell... that it was going to be a serious conversation. there had been two mortgages taken out in his name. he didn't have the time or the money... to take care of this problem and lifelock did it for him. lifelock is proactive protection, working to help stop identity theft before it happens. lifelock's exclusive identity alert system... goes beyond just new credit, giving you much more than just credit monitoring. it's like having a digital fingerprint. if a new application doesn't match you, we send an alert and help fix it for you. stop worrying about what would happen if you were a victim. when you have lifelock, you never have to worry... about who will be there to help protect your identity. call now an put the most sophisticated... identity alert system to work for you,
and enjoy knowing that you have the original... million dollar total service guarantee working for you. everyone should have identity theft protection. go with the industry leader. join lifelock and get alerts to important information, a one million dollar service guarantee... plus a team of identity theft protection specialists. enroll now and get ten percent off your enrollment... for you and your entire family with today's special offer. call now and mention id alert. or visit lifelock.com. ♪ one thing in common when it comes to their numbers -- - mine were too low. - too high. - all over the place. they'd like to discover what they mean... and how to best use them. and now they can. because the accu-chek aviva system now comes with... new, easy-to-use tools to help you discover... what your numbers mean and how the things... you do are connected to your blood sugar patterns.
plus you get an educational video... to guide you step by step. with this tool i saw how little changes can make a big difference. you too can quickly see how food, exercise, and even the time of day... affect your numbers, and make healthy choices. you'll also receive a prescription discount card. i discovered what i can eat and how much. i discovered i only needed a twenty-minute walk. i discovered how to wake up feeling great. there's so much to discover inthe accu-chek aviva system. why not start your discovery today? all: i did. bill: break, news on the economy this morning and brand new numbers on employment, company shed 36,000 jobs in the month of february. the unemployment rate, however, remains unchanged, 9.7%. and now, the house, late yesterday passing a $15 billion plan aim gating americans back
to work -- aimed at getting americans back to work. will it make a difference, not aconcluding to john bane efrment -- john boehner. >> it is outrageous and is another example how they continue to rampart san legislation through the house, without the transparency and accountability the american people expect. bill: from yesterday and now, neil cavuto, the anchor of "your world" and the managing editor of business news and fox business network and the bill, $15 billion -- and didn't garner a headline, what kind of a world are we living in. >> like a rounding error, 15 billion, please! i lose it under the couch! bill: the jobs bill, specifically, do you think that will help some people get back to work? >> well, it has -- in terms of stimulus, you know, only really one number that counts, and that is the payroll jobs data and you can talk about jobs created or saved, and various administrations, try to play with the numbers, to suit
whatever their economic case is, and, i know the administration, is trying hard to say, i dhad i not been for these things, we would be in deeper doo-doo and we might have saved jobses and it might have been 3 million jobs, and there is no way to can't fi and that we are down 2 million jobs, plus, so... we have spent a lot of money, and -- >> the vote count was interesting and got by, by that much in thousands. >> people are saying, we keep spending and digging in deep here and, maybe we just, will cycle out of this and maybe the trend will be our friend, anyway, and recession that normally last 18 to 24 months, this one is in that neck of the woods and we come out, end of story, and the government, has nothing to do with it. bill: we have to pay for it. >> and that leads to the so-called double dip analogy, when you pour a lot of money into something and wake up the
next day, like after a party, and, my god... realize... what hadn't, that is the next step. bill: the unemployment numbers for the month of february, how do you size them up. >> 9.7%, not the 9.8% they feared and not 10% and there was a psychological hit about the double-digit unemployment rate, but, you know, there are those who are -- so-called distress level and you hear of 16 to 17%, real unemployment rate in this country and i think the numbers don't matter for those who experience the pain of unemployment but i think the bigger question is, whether any of the efforts that are out there, to save them are doing the job, and, you know, we're about a trillion into this, between stimulus, between various jobs programs, and 15 billion pocket change, that you talked about. and, you know, you want bang for the buck and we haven't seen it. and, this kind of thing takes time and maybe we'll have cycled out of this and you can say, save the money and our time.
bill: i hope the trend is our friend, eventually, because a lot of people in a lot of pain out there. >> you are absolutely right. thanks, buddy. bill: much appreciate it. martha, what is next. martha: in political circles he's known as the architect. of course, talking about fox news contributor karl rove with a new book out, called "courage and consequences" and hot off feloni the presses and, we have shannon bream with you, and it sounds like he has plenty to say, what do you make of it. >> reporter: a lot of information about the president before he became president and here's a quote talking about then senator obama and he says, after he came to washington, over the next three years i saw him accomplish little but position himself brilliantly for a presidential run and also found out that while he liked to project the image of a discipline and fair minded man he was not so behind the scenes. in private, he played fast and loose with the facts, and his
accusations. and, he tells a story of being at the 2008 white house correspondents dinner at a table with -- before the president was elected, and a woman e-mailed the senator to say i'm having dinner with karl rove and he says she got a return e-mail, she showed him from the p, karl rove hates me and if it was true then, after he reads the book, the feeling will not change and he's criticized him on health care and he says he's out of touch with reality and deceptions he put out about health care, have damaged his credibility. plenty to say about the current president, martha. martha: all right, an interesting read. no doubt, shannon bream, thanks and we understand there is a lot about the hurricane katrina period, and what went on behind the scenes there, so, it will be a fascinating read. thank you very much. in washington. and a man in phoenix who may have been slightly tipsy from a little too much to drink, can thank the police department for possibly saving his life. today.
watch this surveillance video, folks from the train station. you see him walking over there, carrying some kind of bag and is clearly staggering around and down into the tracks. look at the lights of the on coming train up there and you see that two transit assistance, with the phoenix police department saw it happening and they ran, right out there to help and matthew brandt is one of the two officers who helped to rescue the man from the on coming train and joins us on the phone. and welcome, good to have you with us today. >> good morning, how are you doing. martha: fine, how are you doing? you are a hero! >> no, i'm not a hero, just -- i mean, one of those moments, that you have to, you know, doing my job, you know... martha: take us through it, and where were you and what did you see and then what do you do. >> we were right -- riding a light rail vehicle, going northbound, and he got off the platform, and we noticed this guy, he was sitting there and we
asked for his fare ticket and we talked to him and he had his fare and we walked away from him, and, next train was coming southbound and we were going to hop on the train, my partner and i, and the train was approaching the platform and, it usually rings bells and rings the horn saying he's come and the gentleman in the chair stumbled and then all of a sudden took a huge dump and fell head first into the tracks and without thinking we just, my partner and i sprinted down the tracks. got to the individual, and, got him off, my partner put his hand up, to notify the train operator, just to kind of stop the train, because we're on the tracks, and, you can hear the train, operator, just pushing his emergency brakes, and made the eerie sound, and it was, it was a commendable job by the train operator, to be aware of the surroundings, and, to try to get the individual off. martha: and by you as well and
the light is an oncoming train and it is headed right for you guys. >> yes, it is. martha: wow that is in cell. how far ahead did it stop and how much time elapsed between you getting him out and the train coming right into the station? >> usually the train usually comes into the station, at least 20, 25 miles an hour, and that train was 90 feet from us, so... martha: too close for comfort. how is he doing, do you have any idea. >> at the time, he was very intoxicated, and, what happened is we usually call a van or something to do with -- a drunk tank, and what it is is they recuperate for 24 hours, and... martha: and he had angels watching out for him in the form of you guys and should be grateful to you, both. thank you very much for talking with us today and you have a good weekend. thanks, matthew, take it easy! >> appreciate it. bill: he's an angel, huh? and watch the guy 24 hours and
make sure he's okay. martha: he needed 24 hours. bill: a little detox! martha: looking at that video. bill: right-o, and in a moment, toyota said they have a fix for the problems and 06 drive60 dri claiming the fix did not fly, if you own a toyota, do you have a legal case in fair and balanced debate minutes away. [ male ad symptoms threaten to take lindsey jacobellis' power, she takes vicks dayquil... ♪ ...and gets her power back. vicks dayquil. powerful daytime cold and flu symptom relief. ♪
but we're also in the showing-kids- new-worlds business. and the startup-capital- for-barbers business. and the this-won't- hurt-a-bit business. because we don't just work here. we live here. these are our families. and our neighbors. and by changing lives we're in more than the energy business we're in the human energy business. chevron.
>> good morning oil jon scott along with jane skinner, we'll see you in 15 minutes, and a mystery in california, a middle class young couple and their two children, flat-out disappeared and gone fire month and police say there is no indication they were connected with criminals and left food, rotting in their house and left behind their dogs with no food and water. so, where are they? we'll update you on the investigation -- >> and guys, listen up, wait tilt you hear what a man is doing, in order to be with his fiancee, he has just raised the bar for men and women everywhere, we'll tell you his story and he'll be with us and
his fiancee, coming up. martha: more trouble for toyota, folks, more than 60 drivers are now saying that the recall repairs that were made, on the faulty gas pedals, aren't working. the automaker said that it had the fix, many people claim, though there is -- they are still experiencing the sudden acceleration and of course, they are terrified to push down the pedal knowing what they know and toyota, actually, had a fairly decent year, in 2009, and the automaker sold nearly 2 million trucks and cars in the u.s. alone and nearly 7 million worldwide and however the numbers were down year-over-year, i believe for 2009 and the automaker had two of the top selling cars all year and it is very different in 2010, for this company, folks. the prospect of multiple lawsuits, is very real for toyota, will these drivers have a case, and, a former prosecutor and a personal injury law expert, join you, thanks for being here, gentlemen. and, you can hear the phones
ringing, in the lawyers' offices on this one. these 60 people, tom, say i brought my car in, i was told it was a five minute fix and it's not fixed. what do they need to prove to prove they have a casey against toyota, tom, first. >> look, martha, there are two theories of negligence in a case like this and one is strict liability which basically states that, the manufacturer let the defective vehicles leave their plants and put them into the stream of commerce, they are strictly liable for any injuries, resulting there from and in order to do that they need to establish that the vehicles were in fact defective at the time they left the plant and that may be more troublesome than some people think, and remember there are complaints regarding accept raert problems with toyota going back several years and nhtsa, the governing body in the u.s. conducted several tests, and, basically, concluded, look, we can't find any real tangible problem here, and, perhaps something with the
floor mats and, eliminated recalls way back then and as recently as 2009 they quoted -- >> this is the big issue, tom, if the fix didn't work, and then what they are saying was the problem, may not be the problem? and, the possibility lies out there, they may need to recall the cars again, even? that looks to be the road we're going down here, let me bring in bradford cone, personal injury attorney, and, bradford, if somebody is injured in one of these cases or involved in an accident in one of those cases, what is the best path for them, if they want to sue toyota? >> well, tom is right about the theories that are out there, and the proof is going to be, really, the difficult thing, is whether or not there really was a manufacturer defect and what will happen, is that a bunch of these people will get together, obviously, and like cases or similar cases may result in a class-action lawsuit. and, that class-action lawsuit would then, kind of snow ball, everyone would join up with that class-action lawsuit, and,
although, really, in class actions, tom knows as well as i do the only people that make money in class actions are generally the lawyers, and because there are so many people, that the class representative is really the one that gets money and the lawyers get money and everyone that falls in behind them, depending on what their injuries are, what is going to be tough. martha: and tom, if you are a lawyer at toyota, right now, you have a full plate, and you know that all of this is coming down the pipeline and some people will do it, in individual lawsuits for the reason bradford mentioned and there will, no doubt, i would imagine, be huge class-action lawsuits and then you have the potential for people to pile on those, right? oh, yeah, happened to me, too. >> it will be a pile-on effect and an important thing to keep in mind, you know, class-action lawsuits, that term is thrown around a lot and doesn't apply to personal injury lawsuits, because, in a personal injury case everybody's injuries are different and could be wrongful death, could be a hurt neck or what have you, and, class-action lawsuits, go more to economic damages, and all the people who bought toyota, leased toyotas
had an expectation they are buying one of the best cars in the world and, they are driving a rent a car because it is in the shop and that will be a monumental piece of legislation and in addition to that, 50, 60, the numbers different, wrongful death actions and will be costly and keep a lot of lawyers employed for a lot of years. martha: toyota is in trouble and the people who will keep their jobs for the next few years for sure are the legal departments, thank you very much, tom and bradford cohen, thanks, guys. bill: the story from the pentagon, broke late last night, we're learning more information about the shooter who opened fire at the pentagon and what the fbi now learned about the man, where he came from and what he was up to and what brought him to the pentagon, details on that, minutes away on "america's newsroom." or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today.
sweet & salty nut bars... they're made from whole roasted nuts and dipped in creamy peanut butter, making your craving for a sweet & salty bar irresistible, by nature valley. [ woman ] nine iron, it's almost tee-time. time to face the pollen that used to make me sneeze, my eyes water. but with new zyrtec® liquid gels, i get allergy relief at liquid speed. that's the fast, powerful relief of zyrtec®, now in a liquid gel. zyrtec® is the fastest 24-hour allergy medicine. it works on my worst symptoms so i'm ready by the time we get to the first hole. and that's good because the competition's steep today. new zyrtec® liquid gels work fast, so i can love the air.™
>> we all know about these companies, they've been labeled too big to fail but is the state of california too important to fail the world? wow! we have been telling you about the state's money woes for months and that has not changed much, william lajeunesse is on that in l.a., and if california goes, what happens to the rest of us, william? >> yeah, bill, you know, the saying is the future happens first in california, even when it is bad and the cameras worldwide have been watching greece and the bankers are watching california. last week, the chairman of jp morgan chase said, greece is not a threat to the u.s. banking system but california is. here's why: the state, once again, is facing a $21 billion deficit, it needs to erase in the next four months and we averted disaster, last year, using smoke and mirrors and gimmicks and this year, that is not an option. everyone expects big fights over deep cuts, rights now, there are two schools of thought. number one, california succeeds,
already, sales, personal and corporate tax receipts are up, providing enough money to cover the bond payments, the state goes back to the debt market without a problem, ious and the revenue anticipation notes, well, those cover the shortfalls and the legislature would accept the cuts. now, there is another scenario, that says the state defaults. let's look at that: right now, the governor is expected to close the budget with $8 billion from the federal government. what if washington says no? he also expects $10 billion in program cuts. what if the legislature says no? the state goes cash negative in july, and bonds are downgraded and the banks refuse to honor ious. >> what we are talking about is a contagion and it may start south as a california problem but will metastasize and essentially destroy the municipal bond market across the country. >> he's right to point out if california had difficulty meeting its bond obligation
payments, that it could set you have a contagion. >> reporter: contagion means the crisis spreads and you have a chain reaction in the bond market and now the story is under the radar but may not be for long. bill: keep a good eye on that for us, william lajeunesse live in l.a., thank you, william, here's martha. martha: the confessed mastermind of the 9/11 attacks and his four alleged coconspirators originally headed to civilian trials here in new york city and now there is word that that plan may be changing. the details are coming up. bill: also, they they're biggest names in america's space program. guys like neil armstrong... and americans who have set foot on the moon and they have just signed up for a whole new mission. it's
trip of a lifetime, that group includes neil arm strong, the first man to walk on the moon, jim rubel, commander of apollo 13 and gene cernen, the last man to walk on the moon, they're heading for war zones in the middle east for a visit with the troops. >> i've been wanting to go over there to talk to these young men and women who are doing what they've been asked to do, number one, and give them a vote of confidence or a thanks, because what they're doing is truly important. bill: important indeed, huh? those aus nationals -- aus naughts -- astronauts, visiting more than 10,000 members. martha: what a lovely man he is, he's been such a good friend to us, been on here many times, and boy are the men and women in afghanistan and iraq going to get a lot out of that. you have a good weekend. don't go anywhere.